2008-11-09
Gamepro: The 26 Best RPGs
It's Gamepro, so you know it has to be good.
Here's a choice quote from Oblivion:
So the game proves we need more role play game games?
Nicely put.
Xenogears is #8, a game I hate so much I'm going to repost an article on my website from years ago listing the reasons Xenogears sucks.
Yeah, too bad it was a game within a game with a ten-billion word script, each of those words more painful to read than the last.
#7 is The Ultima Series.
What a cop-out. Why do Zelda and Final Fantasy get separate entries, but not Ultima? Anyone who lists "series" is saying, "Okay, every Ultima game combined is pretty good. But you know what's better? #6..."
#6: Diablo II: Lord of Destruction.
The Diablo II expansion pack!
The sad thing is, I don't even think they realize they listed the expansion pack. It's not like they said, "Diablo II + Lord of Destruction."
They write that for Diablo, yet when they listed #9: The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, they didn't even mention what a Zelda game was doing on a list of RPGs. (Okay, Zelda II had an experience system... but we're talking Zelda III here.)
Fallout 3 is #5.
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (aka Zelda 64) is #3. Again, no Diablo-style mention of "it's not really an RPG." Which confuses me, because no matter how much you hate action/adventures or action/rpgs, you've got to admit, Diablo II was a hell of a lot more of an RPG than Zelda 3.
The list closes with World of Warcraft as #2, and Final Fantasy VII as #1.
Final Fantasy VII.
Incidentally, Final Fantasy VI was nowhere on the list.
Cripes.
I can't go on, it's too depressing. Just see for yourself.
Here's a choice quote from Oblivion:
Even two years after its initial release, the game is still a feast for the eyes and is proof that game companies need to make more first-person RPG games.
So the game proves we need more role play game games?
Nicely put.
Xenogears is #8, a game I hate so much I'm going to repost an article on my website from years ago listing the reasons Xenogears sucks.
So deep was the customization and maintenance required for your Gear, and so rewarding were the results of adding parts and upgrades, the combat of Xenogears was almost another game within a game.
Yeah, too bad it was a game within a game with a ten-billion word script, each of those words more painful to read than the last.
#7 is The Ultima Series.
What a cop-out. Why do Zelda and Final Fantasy get separate entries, but not Ultima? Anyone who lists "series" is saying, "Okay, every Ultima game combined is pretty good. But you know what's better? #6..."
#6: Diablo II: Lord of Destruction.
The Diablo II expansion pack!
The sad thing is, I don't even think they realize they listed the expansion pack. It's not like they said, "Diablo II + Lord of Destruction."
Though not a full-blown RPG, Diablo II's hack-and-slash adventure makes our list. Why? Because it's an insanely fun game that weaves in RPG elements.
They write that for Diablo, yet when they listed #9: The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, they didn't even mention what a Zelda game was doing on a list of RPGs. (Okay, Zelda II had an experience system... but we're talking Zelda III here.)
Fallout 3 is #5.
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (aka Zelda 64) is #3. Again, no Diablo-style mention of "it's not really an RPG." Which confuses me, because no matter how much you hate action/adventures or action/rpgs, you've got to admit, Diablo II was a hell of a lot more of an RPG than Zelda 3.
The list closes with World of Warcraft as #2, and Final Fantasy VII as #1.
Final Fantasy VII.
Incidentally, Final Fantasy VI was nowhere on the list.
Cripes.
I can't go on, it's too depressing. Just see for yourself.
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"So the game proves we need more role play game games?
Nicely put."
Didn't you used to pronounce "RPGamer" "R-P-G-gamer", though?
Oh, GamePro.
Xenogears is a game that has its positives (the music is pretty great) but which is horribly bogged down by its flaws (though I've often thought a new translation could improve the game monumentally). One way or another, it certainly doesn't belong on the list. Of course, neither do half the games on there.
(Suikoden 3 instead of 2? What the HELL?)
Nicely put."
Didn't you used to pronounce "RPGamer" "R-P-G-gamer", though?
Oh, GamePro.
Xenogears is a game that has its positives (the music is pretty great) but which is horribly bogged down by its flaws (though I've often thought a new translation could improve the game monumentally). One way or another, it certainly doesn't belong on the list. Of course, neither do half the games on there.
(Suikoden 3 instead of 2? What the HELL?)
...actually, come to think of it, I distinctly remember GamePro whining, outright WHINING, when its readers picked FF7 as Game of the Year in '97 because they thought it was so overrated.
"Didn't you used to pronounce "RPGamer" "R-P-G-gamer", though?"
Bastard!
I was baffled with the Suikoden 3 entry myself. If you ask me, they just wanted an excuse to bring up Rashomon. "Here's a wikipedia link for anyone who doesn't catch our obscure references! Tee-hee! We're so brainy!"
"...actually, come to think of it, I distinctly remember GamePro whining, outright WHINING, when its readers picked FF7 as Game of the Year in '97 because they thought it was so overrated."
Haha, nice. I seem to remember Die Hard Gamefan breaking the laws of mathematics and giving FF7 101%. But I can't find proof of that anywhere so I half-doubt it. Then again, this *was* the magazine o' Blue Shadows and racist anti-Japanese rants, so anything's possible. ;)
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Bastard!
I was baffled with the Suikoden 3 entry myself. If you ask me, they just wanted an excuse to bring up Rashomon. "Here's a wikipedia link for anyone who doesn't catch our obscure references! Tee-hee! We're so brainy!"
"...actually, come to think of it, I distinctly remember GamePro whining, outright WHINING, when its readers picked FF7 as Game of the Year in '97 because they thought it was so overrated."
Haha, nice. I seem to remember Die Hard Gamefan breaking the laws of mathematics and giving FF7 101%. But I can't find proof of that anywhere so I half-doubt it. Then again, this *was* the magazine o' Blue Shadows and racist anti-Japanese rants, so anything's possible. ;)
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